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but in a dark corner of town, something else is going down. this man is stealing a car. what he doesn't know is that the police are watching. >> i'll be right there. >> and so are we. on the other side of las vegas these people are talking
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business. >> nice to finally meet you. >> they are selling stolen merchandise. >> this woman has cars. >> a truck. >> so does he. >> this guy has guns. this man is selling counterfeit money. he is holding a class on how to make the fake bills. they all think they are dealing with other crooks. between the two of these guys they are capable of a crime spree, but they are really selling to cops. back on the strip this man and woman are talking about sex. >> i meet a pretty girl like yourself and get as much money as you are looking for. >> he thinks she is a prostitute. >> somebody to give me guidance. >> to give you guidance. >> he doesn't know she is a
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detective and we are watching from a few feet away. tonight, you'll go behind the scenes like never before with the las vegas metropolitan police department. apparently he makes a lot of money doing this. undercover as it happens to solve crimes. and you'll hear what suspected criminals have to say for themselves. >> chris hansen from "dateline" nbc. what about at the restaurant when she says -- >> was you all following us around. >> i have a videotape you may want to see. can i play it for you? >> sure. more than 30 million tourists will visit las vegas this year, while they eat, drink and play, criminals are hard at work, scamming, stealing cars and selling sex. we have been watching undercover
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operations of the las vegas metropolitan police department one of the most proactive in the country. >> you have to be creative in your approach to law enforcement. the criminal ll is so you have to be as well. >> sheriff doug gillespie is the man in charge. >> if you continue to go after them the same you always have, you will always get the same results. >> one of the biggest problems, car theft. >> auto theft is a prime example. we were going after awe though theft in traditional ways and then we brought in nontraditional ways. >> enter members of a special auto theft unit called the viper squad. >> las vegas is not a place to come and steal cars. >> his detectives use bait cars that are strategically placed to present an opportunity for potential thieves all rigged with hidden cameras. >> i mean, we've got
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state-of-the-art program, one of the largest fleets in the united states and guys who know how to work them. >> tonight the bait car is a 2006 escalade. >> why are you following me? >> the cops pick a fight between a man and a woman. where did they get the idea? >> it is based on actual cases where people have had their cars stolen. >> in their commotion they pretend to abandon the bait car. this man gets in the car, looks around but he doesn't take the bait and he leaves. moments later this suv pulls up across the street. this man gets in and begins to drive away. within minutes he pulls over. that's when police move in. >> let me see your hands! hands up! >> they arrest two men, the driver and his accomplice, a man named frankie who i get a chabs to talk to.
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chris hansen with "dateline nbc." >> i remember you guys from "catch a predator." >> you like it? >> yeah. i like you catch them. >> guess what we are catching now? >> car theft. >> auto thieves. >> tell me what happened? >> these people were fighting. a white guy and white lady. >> right. >> the white lady got out of the car so me and my friend went down there to see what was going on so we took the truck. >> was it impulse? >> pretty much. >> spur of the moment? >> yeah. >> you in a bit of a jam. >> oh, yeah. >> how old are you? >> 19. >> have you ever been busted before? >> no. >> never took any cars. >> no. >> never been to court? >> been to court once. >> for what? >> driving on a permit. >> what is your biggest regret
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tonight? >> getting in the truck and going over there. >> so you're facing serious charges here tonight. >> yeah. >> at 19 years old. >> just one bad judgment call is all it really was. >> frankie has not entered a plea. detective duvall hopes his arrest serves as a warning to others. >> first of all, hopefully people will get a message you don't steal cars in las vegas. >> most of the time there are real victims. this woman had her car stolen at gun point. did he point the gun at you? >> yes. well the whole time it was pointed at me. >> would the thief who did it ever be found? that leads us to another undercover operation going on in vegas. we are watching that one, too. once again the bad guys don't know it. >> kyle, nice to meet you.
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>> that's next. coming up later -- >> i mean, i can do thing for you. >> we are a few feet away from a bold crackdown right on the strip and someone is surprised to see us. >> what would have happened? >> i would have walked to the 7/11 and went home and watch "dateline nbc" tomorrow night with someone else on the news. >> still ahead on "vegas undercover." they said it would never last.
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[ female announcer ] nature fusion from pantene. behind every car that's stolen there's an all too real victim. >> somebody just stole my car. >> i was actually at work. i was working late and i was in the office by myself. >> 23-year-old monique was about to leave her office when a man approached her and asked to use the phone. >> i was in the middle of asking him, oh, you need to use the phone when i looked up and saw the gun. he was like, give me your keys. >> are you okay? >> yeah. >> the man wanted her cadillac parked outside. >> it was unreal. >> do you want medical or anything? >> no. >> it is scary, i know.
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>> the las vegas police know it happens all too often and know when thieves steal cars or other items they will look for a place to sell the goods. >> our shop is coming up on the right-hand side. >> the las vegas intelligence unit has rented this little shop. for fencing operations. >> for fencing operations so you can bring stolen high end electronics, vehicles and get paid cash under the table. >> the shop is tucked away in an industrial area off the vegas strip and masquerades as a place that installs car audio systems. everything in the store front is a prop with a purpose. even things like this the eight ball the rubix cube. >> everything is wiped down after every deal to gather information from fingerprints if
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need be. >> police have rigged the shop with hidden cameras and we have been able to install some of our own. there is one up here, one right here and another one right here. how dangerous is it for you the do an investigation like this? >> for the undercover officers who are dealing directly at this counter it is very dangerous. >> you don't know who is going to pull out a gun? >> absolutely. >> they are under constant surveillance from this back room. there are undercover officers right here hands on their guns ready to pop out here in case something goes bad. the word is out on the street that the owners of the so-called audio shop buy stolen goods. now it's time for the customers. >> come on in, sweetie. >> meet cheryl miller, chevy, a 40-year-old mother of three. today she is selling a 2002 ford mustang. >> is it in good shape? >> oh, yeah. it is awesome.
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>> a friend reported the car stolen in order to collect the insurance. >> for insurance or whatever. >> they want it to disappear? >> yeah. >> another day chevy is back and says she and some of her friends have guns. >> a 12 gauge. >> they are all rifles? >> yeah. 308. >> she says her forte is forgery, making fake checks. >> i do fake checks. big munchaks. >> okay. >> chevy is now a regular and begins to bring her friends to the shop. the undercover cops are doing a bang up business. characters of all kinds come by. this man had some large guns. >> what do we got? what do we got? it looks like a stiff body in there. >> two 38 specials?
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>> hi, how are you? >> here comes brittany, australian unlikely looking suspect. >> where are you from? >> alaska. >> today she has come with a 2006 dodge pickup truck. she says it was taken from a man she knows. she also says she's got guns, lots of them. the cops working this operation are a tight-knit group of specially trained undercover operations. when you do one of these deals it is not just another day at the office. >> it is never another day at the office. >> we have hidden their faces to protect their identities. >> there are lots of unconventional ways we are going to go after these people. we are doing everything we can to get them and be creative and get these people off the streets and put them in prison. >> one thing these detectives were surprised about is how many women showed up.
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allison, a mother who is here to sell this stolen ford thunderbird. >> is the ac broken in that ride or what? >> i don't know. >> she says she is selling the car for a friend and doesn't know if it has been reported stolen or not. allison tells the underkohr detectives she knows someone who can come up with a fake title for the car. >> i have a girlfriend that works down at one of the tow places and she does the title. >> they settle on a price. $200. >> yeah. that's fine. you know what, if you hand me a dollar right now, i would take that. >> this is kyle kennedy. he and a friend have come in to sell a stolen suv. the cops make him feel right at home. soon he reveals he's just become a father. >> i hear you got a baby.
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>> yeah. >> not your average family man. >> i would have been kicked to the curb a long time ago. >> soon they get to business and settle on a price. $550 for a car worth $25,000. kyle and his friend leave with the cash. like most of the suspects police let kyle walk so they don't blow their cover. the plan is to arrest all the suspects once the operation has ended. two weeks later, kyle is back with a cadillac. and now he's bragging to the cops about how he stole it using a weapon. >> i took it strong arm with a gun. >> and whose car is it. >> he said i'm going to need your keys. >> it is monique's. robbed at gun point. >> now police know kyle is violent they can't let him walk. >> this person has to be removed
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from the street as quickly as possible. >> the trick is to not tip him off that the store front is a police operation. bobby duvall handles the arrest. they are not going to tell kyle he was caught in a sting. they will come up with another excuse. they pull him over and tell him his victim picked him out of a photo lineup. >> can i ask what is going on? >> kyle who is serving a prison term on other charges has yet to enter a plea with his alleged store front crimes. police ultimately caught this guy? >> yes. >> how did that feel? >> it was incredible. before this i thought that cops, they don't really do anything. they just drive around. >> turns out in vegas police do a lot. >> this is all about negotiation. >> undercover detectives are everywhere. it isn't only car thieves they are after.
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>> her target audience is going to be a pimp. >> hi, honey.
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prostitute and is acting like one. >> hi, honey. >> but she is an under kohr detective with the pimp investigative team, p.i.t. for short. how do you prepare for your role? >> i have a story i stick to all night long. i go over that in my mind multiple times. >> her story, she is a new arrival in las vegas trying prostitution for the first time. her supervisor, lieutenant karen hughes runs the vice unit. >> she is going to be out there
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and her target audience, so to speak, is going to be a pimp. >> a pimp. >> a man recruiting for new girls into his stable. >> i would do anything for the right money. >> tonight we watch as the operation begins at a known hooker hangout. >> do you want a date or what? >> within minutes she is propositioned by customers again and again. more than a dozen times within 30 minutes but the real target, the pimps are nowhere to be seen. >> she seems to know pretty quickly whether or not she is dealing with a pimp or a john. so just after midnight they move to a different location right on the vegas strip. almost immediately she is approached by this man while we watch from a few feet away. >> i know a few people i can introduce you to. >> the undercover officer was on the stripless than four minutes
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before she was approached. the conference is continuing. she didn't think she was a pimp she would have walked away by now. >> this is all about negotiation. >> the suspected pimp suggests one of his favorite ways to advertise her services. >> have you gone through craigslist? >> no. >> you can do anything on craigslist. >> he never openly admits he is a pimp. listen to what he says. >> somebody you can rely on, somebody you can call when the chips are down, when the chips are up, keep you motivated and keep you focused because it is not easy out there for anybody, especially in the business. you have to have somebody -- >> somebody to give me guidance. >> to give you guidance. >> in las vegas encouraging prostitution is a felony called pandering. the cops believe there is no mistaking what he has in mind. >> if you need me to help you i'm at your services.
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your next move needs to be the next move. if you invest in me, i need to ns in you. >> the undercover officer says she is interested and has an appointment to turn a trick and will call him when she is done. >> can i get your number? >> you are going to pay me for it. >> can i pay you after i see this guy? >> an hour late ter suspected pimp is back to collect his money. they walk into a casino. that's when the undercover cop hands him the cash she says is from the trick she just turned and police move in. he agrees to talk to me before he heads off to jail. hey, christopher, chris hansen with "dateline nbc." how are you doing? can you tell me what happened tonight? >> just hanging out.
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>> the suspect insists he never approached her. it was the other way around. who made the first contact. >> she made eye contact. >> she made eye contact. >> she said hey. i said hey. she is a good looking woman. i'm a good looking dude. >> the real question is it all about prostitution? >> did you tell her you would be her pimp? >> i'm not a pimp. >> you see how this looks? >> what it looks is not what it really is. i understand this was a sting operation. i understand that i feel like i have been victimized and i'm going to jail. >> you didn't have to take her money. you didn't have to promise her certain things. >> the economy is bad. i can't find a job nowhere. my intention was to get a couple of drink and go back home. >> what would have happened if she had not be there?
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>> i would have walked to the 7-11, put time on my phone and went home and watched "dateline nbc" with somebody else on the news. >> christopher has not entered a plea. as you can see the image that prostitution in las vegas is tolerated is a myth. there is an image that prostitution in las vegas is the high-class world of call girls. >> that is a fallacy. it is violent, vile, degrading. >> this woman says she was caught up in that violent world, a victim of a pimp who lured her to las vegas for prostitution. >> take a deep breath. >> now the police will be coming to her rescue. >> that is next, coming up later -- money for nothing. we take you to a secret garage where somebody is cooking up counterfeit. >> he is showing the undercover officers how to clean the bills.
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the guy who thinks he is cashing in may soon be paying up. still ahead on "vegas undercover." yeah, my buddy's got all that. ouch. we've done corn dogs, pizza, and nachos. put it down. [ moans ] dude!
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donna miranda is in trouble and she called the police for help. her story. she came to vegas to meet a man named stephen harris and she claims he tried to intimidate her into working for him as a prostitute. how did it start? >> girls are young and naive. they will believe what a sweet guy has to say. that is what i did. >> it started as onion line relationship. >> everything seemed to be great. he promised me the world. he was going to take care of me and my kids. >> she says that all changed and that is why the pimp investigative team is gathered. she told people what happened at dinner. >> there were gentlemen and he said go talk to them. >> he thought harris was suggesting he offer herself for sex. >> i thought he was kidding and i laughed it off.
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>> when they got back to his house he let her known he wasn't kidding. you were supposed to talk to those gentlemen like i told you and make us some money. >> she said she needed to get out and fast. >> i was packing my stuff. he put his right arm around my stomach and he threw me across the room. >> terrified she says she fled barefoot. >> i ran out the front door. >> that is when she called 911. >> he slapped me and poked me in the eye. >> turns out after donna called 911, harris called police as well claiming he was the victim, that she hit him. >> well, my girlfriend got a little agitated and hit me repeatedly and kicked me, going crazy. >> police didn't believe him especially since he has been arrested for pandering before. now the pimp investigative team
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wants to bring him in. they asked donna to call him. >> i know we got off on the wrong foot. >> she tries to get harris to make admissions. >> you want me to be your source of income. >> in the end he declines to meet her. police decide to close in on his house with a s.w.a.t. team. >> harris, come outside and do it now. >> harris isn't there. his neighbor isn't surprised to see the police. >> what kind of neighbor was he? >> the police were here at least half a dozen times. a couple of times they brought him in and he was crying like a baby. >> hey, stephen, how are you doing, man? >> detectives come up with another plan. they tell harris to meet him at a starbucks. they are investigating whether donna really did start the fight. i haven't had a chance to talk to you. i want to talk to you about what
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happened the other night. she gave me herr side of the story. >> harris takes the bait. it is about five minutes after 2:00. he said he would be here at 2:00 to meet with the detective. when harris shows up the cops move in and arrest him. he agrees to talk to me. chris hansen at "dateline nbc." i would shake your hand except -- >> it's all right. >> we are doing a story in pimps in las vegas. >> lucky for me. >> have you ever seen our show to catch a predator. >> was she 17 or something? >> no. no. harris says he did nothing wrong. donna found him online. her photos attracted him. what was your plan for donna? >> i was going to make her my lady. >> your lady? >> yeah. my woman. >> harris insists he never asked her to approach a group of men.
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what about the restaurant -- >> was you all following us around. i'm going to ask you like this, if i was a so-called pimp i would not let one of my girls solicit someone while they were with me. that is just dumb. >> remember, he called police to say donna hit him not the other way around. >> you are the victim here? >> first she beats me up. i called domestic violence and now i'm going to jail. yeah, i am the victim. >> before he goes off to jail harris offers a word of advice. >> men, if you think you want to call the cops because your spouse beat you up you might want to think about that again. >> listen, i appreciate you talking to me. >> keep up the good work. i like that show. >> take care. harris facing a potential four-year sentence.
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while the pimp squad takes him away, the undercover store front is still attracting people who think they have the license to steal. one thinks he has a license to print money. >> i made so much money. >> that's next. and coming up later -- is that you right there? >> yeah. >> they're back. a roundup of suspect and they are caught by surprised when they learn they are caught on tape. did you try to sell some counterfeit money? >> no. >> i have a videotape you may want to see. still ahead on" vegas undercover."
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for the past nine months inside the undercover fencing operation police 'purchased items you would expect from thieves, cars and guns. now they encounter something they never imagined. something we've never seen. meet 39-year-old brian rusty king. his merchandise, counterfeit $100 bills. fake money he says is a profitable business. >> i made so much [ bleep ] money it is unbelievable.
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>> in his pocket $2,000 of the fakes. >> what do you have on you now? >> a couple grand. >> he hands the bogus bills to the undercover cops. where does he get the counterfeits? he says from some really scary guys. >> they don't [ bleep ] around. they are serious guys. >> the undercover cops carefully examine the counterfeit bills and offer to pay rusty 25 cents on the dollar. he takes the $500 in real currency for the $2,000 in counterfeits. how does he keep his bills straight? >> the real money -- >> rusty says passing counterfeit money has not been difficult. he spends rein money in a store, gets change from the clerk then quickly finds an excuse to introduce a fake bill. >> i turn around, can you give me a pack of cigarettes and i
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lay it down. they just gave them to you. they don't think. >> he claims some of the money is also passed into circulation by an insider at a casino. he says takes his fake bills and gives him real currency. >> we got one guy in the cashier's cage at a casino. six different people walk in and take $500 a piece and they go to the [ bleep ] cashier's cage and give him the money and he takes it but the way he inserts it, turns it in, he is somehow mixing it up. >> rusty says the counterfeiters have been trying to refine the process in an effort to improve the product. in fact, he says they are holding back some recently printed bills to make sure they are just perfect. >> we are waiting now to hold the bill for a couple of days to see if anything funny happens like it changes colors or anything weird. >> the cops want to know more
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about how these bills are made. a lot more. a few weeks later rusty is back. now rusty tells him he is on his own. there aren't any partners. this time a garage behind the store front he will give them a demonstration in the fine art of counterfeiting. we are watching from the back room. rusty has no idea he is talking to undercover police officers. he takes real $5 bills setting out to remove their inc. he soaks them in a degreaser bought at a automotive store and heats them up in a microwave oven. >> what's a good amount? >> no longer than ten minutes. >> he teaches them how to brush the bills clean. rusty is showing the officers
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how to clean the bills, taking the ink off. he finishes washing the bill and sprays it with a house hold cleaner. >> just cleaning that crap off of it. >> this is giving new meaning to the phrase laundering money. and then he uses a hair dryer to finish the drying process. when he is done what used to be a $5 bill is virtually blank. >> here we go. except for the water mark of abraham lincoln. to make the fake $100 he'll use an ink jet printer. he scans a photo of a real $100 bill. and prints it on top of the blank paper he just created from the $5 billion. the job is finished. the result a counterfeit $100
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bill. what is the quality? the police say as counterfeits go, it is fairly good. >> so if somebody were to take the time and hold it up to a light you could see abraham lincoln and a $5 strip. but most people don't do that? >> right. they look to see some sort of portrait and there is some sort of strip here. >> for his part rusty is proud of his work. in case you are thinking of trying this at home you should know we have left out a number of key steps. one more thing, counterfeiting is a felony punishable up to 15 years in prison. when the demonstration is done the undercover detectives tell rusty they'll be in touch. >> take care. >> that may be an understatement. >> we've got him in custody.
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[ female announcer ] nature fusion from pantene. healthy makes it happen. we've been watching as undercover las vegas detectives catch suspected car thieves and pimps. >> safety is the utmost importance to us. >> now after a 10-month investigation the undercover fencing operation has ended. it is time to round up the suspects.
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the lieutenant briefs his officers. >> be on heightened awareness. don't let your guard down. >> teams will be in search of 38 suspects accused of selling stolen goods to police. some have left town. but they find many others. there was christopher woods who sold guns to undercover officers. he's brought to police headquarters. hey, chris. chris hansen with "dateline nbc." we are doing a story. >> i don't want to talk to you, sir? >> is that you? don't you want to see it? >> no. >> all right. thanks for your time. christopher has pleaded not guilty. here comes allison hunt. she is the single mom who sold a stolen car. hey, allison. chris hansen with "dateline nbc." how are you doing?
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>> not very good. >> i have no idea what they are talking about. >> did you get involved in stolen items. >> no. i have a kid. i don't even have a driver's license. >> you have never gone anywhere to sell a stolen vehicle. >> no. >> can i show you something? >> yeah. >> is that you? >> with her memory refreshed she admits trying to sell the car. a male friend who is staying with her asked her to sell it for him. that is you right there talking about driving around in a stolen vehicle? >> i didn't know if it was. my friend wanted to sell it. >> she says the only way to get him out of the house was to go along. >> he came over to my house and i couldn't get rid of him. couldn't get rid of him. >> so you decided to sell a stolen car for him to get rid of him? >> i didn't know it was stolen
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or not. i didn't think anybody would do that to me. i have a kid. he was a weirdo, walking around without his shirt acting like he lived there. >> that doesn't make it okay to sell a stolen car. >> i know that. >> so you are a victim in all this? >> yeah. yeah. >> how would you describe the situation you are in now? >> awful. absolutely awful. i would rather be dead than to be here right now but i worry about how my kid is going to be raised. i am so sorry. if there is anything i can do to make up for it i would be happy to. >> thank you for talking to us. >> yeah. thanks. >> good luck with everything. >> yeah. thanks. >> allison has pleaded not guilty. remember rusty. he showed police how to print bogus $100 bills. >> westbound. >> police picked him up days
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earlier on an outstanding drunk drivering warrant. he has no idea no one knows about his counterfeiting. we were allowed in the jail to ask him some questions. hey, rusty, how are you? chris hansen from "dateline nbc." remember, he thinks he is here on a dui. police have allowed us to reveal we know about his koubt fitting. he agrees to talk to me and at first denies it. did you go to a store front business and try to sell some counterfeit money? >> no. i did go to a store front business but i didn't try to sell counterfeit money. >> why did you go there? >> because they contacted me wanting some information from me. >> what kind of information? >> about counterfeiting. >> did you tell them anything? >> yes. >> what did you tell them? >> i showed them what somebody
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showed me. how to do it. >> do you know how to counterfeit money? >> no. just from what i have seen on the internet. i have a video you may want to see. can i play it for you? >> sure. that is you right there. now before this is all over you produce a crisp $100 bill and you basically tell them how to do it and how to pass this $100 bill. how it works in casinos, how you can do it in a convenience store. >> right. >> how many of those $100 bills have you made over the years, rusty? >> not many. >> that is not what you said here. rusty says he was blowing smoke. how much money in reality do you think you made? >> not jack [ bleep ]. >> not jack? >> no. >> give me a ballpark?
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>> nothing probably. i haven't passed any of them myself and never would try because honestly, to look at them, they don't look that real. >> if they didn't look real why did he say on hidden camera he carries two wallets to tell the bills apart. >> i got one with the real money. >> how come you have one wallet for real money and one wallet for counterfeit money. >> that is bs. >> there is a lot of bs floating around. >> yeah. there was a lot of bs going on there. >> how would you characterize the situation you are in now? >> how would you describe it? >> [ bleep ] disgusting. >> well is there anything else you want folks to know about what happened here? >> no. >> thanks for your time. rusty is charged with forgery in the fourth degree and pleaded not guilty. remember cheryl miller nicknamed chevy. she came in to the store front
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to sell stolen cars. she was locked up for passing bad checks. hey, cheryl, chris hansen, "dateline nbc." >> would you like to take a seat? >> not really. if i don't have to. >> you don't have to do anything. i want to ask you a couple of questions. can i show you a videotape? >> sure. >> it doesn't take long for cheryl to realize she is in trouble. did you think it might have been an undercover investigation? >> i did. >> did you help sell vehicles? >> yeah. i helped. yes. >> so you were a part of the deal? >> yes. >> does that make you just as guilty as the person who stole the car? >> absolutely. >> how did you end up in such a jam like this? >> when you are beaten from the age of 3 1/2 to 14 you don't
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stand much of a chance. i got pregnant with his baby when i was 13. it is one of those. >> what he did to you put you in a tough spot from the get-go. >> from the age of 14 i was on the streets. >> she says she has three children and has been strung out on crystal meth for years. how do you break the cycle of crime? i'm guessing you are not wanting to be here? >> you are asking a 40-year-old woman who has not broken the cycle. four children. cared more about the drugs than my own children. >> is it a relief to be in jail and away from meth and that lifestyle? >> yeah, it is. i have somewhere to sleep at night. my kids will graduate because they are not out with me. >> and how they are doing? >> fabulous because i didn't raise them. >> do you talk to them at all?
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>> no. no. >> how hard is that for you? in these long stretches of sobriety in jail to cope with the fact that you don't have a relationship with your kids. >> it tears you up inside. >> cheryl has pleaded not guilty. cheryl, thanks so much. >> mm-hmm. >> stories like hers are not lost on sheriff doug gillespie. do you ever feel sorry for a person like that? >> you do. you do. it doesn't make what they've done right by any stretch. >> he says there are programs designed to help people like cheryl. >> in law enforcement we don't look at it from the enforcement standpoint. we are looking from prevention and education standpoint as well. if you do become addicted, here are services that are available to you. you have programs in place to give them opportunities to change their way of life. are there enough of though
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services? no. do we have to continue to work in that direction as well? yes. >> when people see this investigation and unprecedented access, what do you think the takeaway should be? >> i think this reinforces to the public that we are not just out there driving around, that we are being proactive, we are being creative and we are doing our level best to keep this community safe. >> and we'll continue to watch close up and undercover. you'll find more information about this undercover operation on our website.
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that's all for now. i'm chris hansen. for all of us at nbc news, thanks for joining us. -- captions by vitac -- wwvitac.com

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